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[ronone]

A poster on that other place wrote,

the hardest thing for me was the Magazine sprinklers and ammo compatibility because i never would think that anybody memorized that info my whole career i was thought to look it up.
and who's got lot cards? do they even make those things? i don't even have ROLMS i use OIS. anyway.
thats just me.

I liked the old stock cards.  They sure helped me.  Anyone who has ever received ammunition from the navy knows they dump all their odd lots on the Coast Guard.  One time, of some 1500 rounds of 5"/38 powder, I had some 55 lot numbers. No big deal.  I just shoot up the small lots first during practice.  It did take some planning.  The only time I never maintained the cards was in Vietnam. It simply came and went too fast.

Some one will have to explain ROLMS and OIS to me.   

[EX-CG-GM]

Bill,

When we were in Nam we frequently received messages telling us to check for certain lots of 5"/38 powder.  This was about the time some ships were experiencing misfires with the ancient ammo.

[ronone]

Stan,

I know about old ammunition.  While at GITMO We brought up 5" powder prior to a shoot and when we inspected them the bottom of one  case nearly fell out of the can.   We set this one aside.  That evening when EOD came to the ship they, in an odd bored matter, did not believe me.  When I opened it for them, all they could do is go oooow.

We also let NAVSEA know their folks are not inspecting their stuff.

While in Vietnam, and after the Point Arden incident, we were ordered to dump all our 81mm HE with the bore riding safety pin at sea.  We ran down the coast throwing mortar rounds over the side.  There were over 800 rounds we tossed which meant we were empty for that patrol.   We went ashore in one area and traded a couple army mortar positions for ammunition.  They thought we were nuts to actually trade for ammunition.  We gave them one of the loaves of lunch meat that we stole from the navy.   I suppose it worked out. Besides, we had more bologna than we could eat.   

[lmuldowney]

Bill,
ROLMS is computer program that we now use that tracks all of our ammo. We put in what we get and then when we expend the ammo the program automatically does up the ATR. We no longer need to have lot cards on board. OIS is in the process of replacing ROLMS but us underway guys do not have good enough conductivity to us it. From what I understand OIS takes away the need for ATR's all together since it is all online.

I hope this helps,
Larry

[ronone]

Larry,

Does the computer system track those units with certain lots for NAR purposes?  That would be a large improvement. 

[lmuldowney]

Yeah,
If you downloaded the NARS into ROLMS then it will do up your ATR.

[ronone]

Funny thing about all these accounting systems is I knew GMs who could not balance a check book.

[EX-CG-GM]

Funny thing about all these accounting systems is I knew GMs who could not balance a check book.

I knew GM's that had a rough time filling out the min/max sheets on the temperature cards!  I think they should have gone BM.

 

[KODIAK5BEARS]

Larry,

Does the computer system track those units with certain lots for NAR purposes?  That would be a large improvement. 

Yes, OIS does.  In fact I miss the cards, but it does make it easier to track lots.  I have each unit set up as a "Magazine", so when I want to know what a unit has, I type in the units name and it will give me everything that unit has.   I am just concerned if the new GM's actually know how to do an ATR, because the computer does it ALL FOR YOU.  Every month, I get an automated Periodic Lot Report (PLR) from OIS and I verify everything when it comes out.  Units who are not "reporters" still do their atrs the old fashion way.  I have those units send me a monthly ATR with their lots under each transaction line between the 1st and 7th of each month.  OIS is pretty user friendly.  I get all my NARS, OHD, and AINs from OIS, as the CG message traffic system seems to miss some.  I do this weekly, then once a month I print out an "updated" cover sheet for the aforemention.

Paul